Why are people leaving SuiteCRM?

Wow! Is it same configuration or you made any changes? :star_struck:

Nothing new is required, I have a thread about a couple of bug fixes required. They probably will never get patched, but simply changing a couple of lines makes it work.

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Hi everyone, I’ve found this thread very interesting, and I think it’s also very useful for anyone who is looking for a CRM solution and considering SuiteCRM as an option…

I’m still in the early stages of getting familiar with SuiteCRM. After my first contact with it, I’ve had the impression that, in some respects, it feels a bit outdated, as if it belongs to another era.

Some functionalities seem difficult to configure (for example, I’m still struggling to enable IMAP email accounts with XOauth2 authentication and I’m still not sure whether my users will be able to configure their own mailboxes or if they will need assistance from an administrator user).

My first impression (probably unfair) is that SuiteCRM is just a CMS with a set of additional features - such as workflows or email campaign sending - but that none of them stand out as particularly great and often extra systems and plugins have to be added to cover what they lack. For example, no built-in integration with Outlook Calendar (and no good plugins seem to exist -or I was not able to find them).

I’m sure this perception is due to my limited experience with SuiteCRM so far, and that I’m likely missing many nuances (the fact that there are many people here actively participating must mean that SuiteCRM is worthwhile).

After these days in contact with SuiteCRM, the following questions have come up to me:

  • what would you highlight as the advantages of SuiteCRM compared to commercial alternatives?
  • do you consider it truly powerful, or do you feel that it’s a limited solution only suitable for basic scenarios?
  • how long did it take you to get familiar with the system and start being productive?

Thank you for reading. Kind regards.

Open Source, no (or little) vendor lock-in, data sovereignity and depending on your project very important: no (API) limits / scalability.
Flexibility - especially when you’re building up your CRM system for the digitilization of a wider range of business processes. It’s amazing to see how companies develop into great structures and processes over time.

I think, it’s worldwide the open source CRM system with the widest feature selection out of the box.

Since I’m with SuiteCRM since ā€œbefore Suite / the sugar daysā€ already, I can only talk about my customers projects. Usually it takes around 1 - 3 months for a small case / company and 3 - 6 months for a ā€œstandardā€ case / project to ā€œsettleā€ in the day to day processes.
There have been deviations for special projects with a larger scope or specific integrations.
Without me / a professional consultant, I’ve got the impression that it takes twice to three times as long and those projects are usually ā€œstoppingā€ at 40 - 70% of the potential. Sometimes, the data architecture is ā€œwrongā€ and the situation is even worse, when customers finally decide to seek out help.

@isa7

If you are using Outlook (especially if you are using Office365), try this:

For just the calendar itself, individual users have an ical link in their profile that can be subscribed to in Outlook.

I have reviewed and worked with a number of clients with various different CRM systems (and there is a big difference between a CMS and a CRM). Suite has a number of benefits:

  1. Cost - no I’m not going to say its free, but the costs are definitely advantageous especially at the starter level, you can install it on a fairly basic server and only when you are using it heavily will you need to pay more for the server itself, it won’t be about per user licences at its basic level.
  2. Adaptability - its open source nature makes it very good for multiple uses, it can be integrated into most external systems with good API’s due to its open source nature.
  3. I have been brought on board for some very complex systems and used and expanded properly its very powerful, however saying that to get the most power out of it you would need the proper development and integration resources.
  4. How long to get productive - That will depend on viewpoint, from a users perspective its quite easy, unlike most systems Suite is very ā€œrepetitiveā€ once you have a handle on how objects ā€œfit togetherā€ the entire system just repeats so training is more about how your scenario is set up rather than Suite itself, as Suite 8 develops I am hoping that a lot of the harder to use and quirky parts (for a user anyway) things will improve and be ā€œfixedā€.

Regards

Mark

Thank you for your replies @BastianHammer and @markbond. I really appreciate them!