Suite 8.1 Installation

[pgr]

@PowerQuest

But in a strong community there should be no bigger issues in getting people involved to donate some cash for these development purposes. SuiteCRM has strong user base with thousands and thousands of companies using it so tossing a few dollars into a development pool for good cause, (like for example a monthly/yearly crowdfunding/donation) that benefits everyone should not not be a big thing in my opinion.

This is all very nice but it never seems to happen… SalesAgility have their donate button up there on GitHub, and it’s generated almost zero income. I have my Sponsorship system set up and I have two generous donors, but it wasn’t enough to keep me from having to accept other projects… it seems like everybody wants a free ride, and wants others to pay, but doesn’t want to take the first steps…

[mariofucile]

Hi,

So at the moment which SuiteCRM version are you working with in production env?

Thanks
Mario

[pgr]

I am just finishing the preparation to upgrade to 7.12.5 from 7.10.24. My main issue of “taking it slow and easy” is because of the need to update my own PowerReplacer add-on to work with the PDF engine changes in 7.12.x.

I would recommend to most people that they use 7.12.5 if they don’t feel ready for 8.x.

[mariofucile]

Got it.

Thanks
Mario

[PowerQuest]

Hi @mariofucile
We use the following version:

Kind regards
PowerQuest

[mariofucile]

Hi PowerQuest,

My concern in using the 7.12.5 version is about the support which “…will have a full 18 months of support following the release of SuiteCRM 8.0.” (fm Nov’21 ->May '23).

Thanks
Mario

[PowerQuest]

Hello @mariofucile
If you do not self host then you might have that issue. but if you do self host then you need to fix issues by yourself (or your IT guy), anyway.

We never had any major issues so far. (knock on wood) and we do self host our systems.

Version 8 on the other hand is not stable enough yet had have a lot of bugs that needs t be addressed before it could be considered production stable.

Kind regards
PowerQuest

[mariofucile]

Hi PowerQuest,

I understand the point and I agree.
I am using an external shared webhost (chemicloud). Fm control panel->softaculus I can install just suitecrm 8.1 now. I think I could install the 7.12.5 version uploading the zip and so on or do you think there will be possible issues this way?

Thanks
Mario

[PowerQuest]

Hello.

Do not use the softaculus installer @mariofucile because it makes some stupid things during install. in some case you get for example https://yourdomcom/suitecrm/ as your address which means that it is exposing the folder you have installed the system in. On top of that it isn’t always secure enough for production.
It is always best to install through the manual route. You can download it here to your computer: Download - SuiteCRM
That way you can secure your system accordingly and configure the correct URL address that you want to you.
Just follow the documentation on how to install SuiteCRM here:
Downloading & Installing :: SuiteCRM Documentation

check also my older post about hardening SuiteCRM here:

Harden security...

is there anything that would compromise the functionality of SuiteCRM by setting folder and file permsions to: Folders - From 755 to 750? Files - From 644 to 640? I thought it would be good to strengthen/harden the permissions at bit, just in case… But before I do it I want to ask you guys if I should do this or not. Please comment and tell me if this is possible… Thanks in advance Kind regards PowerQuest

Good luck and have fun!

Kind regards
PowerQuest

[mariofucile]

Hi PowerQuest,

Thanks a lot for your info/advice. I will try it.

Bye
Mario

[pjdm]

I understand that rollouts need to happen and 100% of bugs are never fixed. But, for a new v8 it should have the basics addressed: Upgrades should be scripted and tested. Themes should be tested and work. There are ways to do unit tests prior to release and, yes, that requires money and people. I would enjoy getting involved but v8 for me as a first crack at SuiteCRM is full of issues. I would rather had been told to start with v7 if that is going to help me though 2022. Or, a way to pay to get my v8 workable, updated, customized and themes that work. I’m a big fan of open source but it needs a large source of resources to fix things for people who can’t fix them themselves. I’m not seeing how to do that. Maybe hire a freelancer? Maybe makes those resources available somewhere. Anyway, thanks for all the input from everyone and all the contributions. I feel lost however and unable to make any progress.

[mariofucile]

Hello PowerQuest,

As stated before I am trying the 7.12.5 installation in my external webhost (chemicloud).
Downloaded zip file and unzipped, than did the three commands lines:
sudo chown -R www-data:www-data .
sudo chmod -R 755 .
sudo chmod -R 775 cache custom modules themes data upload
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everything seems fine but at the fourth this I got lost:

sudo chmod 775 config_override.php 2>/dev/null

Is the command right?

Thanks
Mario

[pgr]

Why do you think the command is wrong? Did you get an error? You probably don’t have a config_override.php file yet, so that command won’t make any difference.

The chown is quite important, and it’s not always *www-data user that needs to be used. It depends on which user your web server process runs under, do you know?

[mariofucile]

Hello pgr,

Thanks for the fast reply.

I did not see any config_override.php file that’s why I asked…I did it anyway and obviously nothing happen, no errors.

Regarding the chown, did it the requested using my web server user which is not www-data.

Any other useful advice, before I proceed?

Thanks
Mario

[pgr]

@mariofucile

Any other useful advice, before I proceed?

Move fast and break stuff!

(with proper backups and VM snapshots of course )

[mariofucile]

Hey pgr,

Right, thanks!

Looking at the recommended installation pre requisites checking from my phpinfo I noticed that:

• “sprite” does not appear

Is that essential?

Regarding the backup, I would stay with exporting the database and copying the custom directory, but
maybe you have a more fast and secure method, don’t you?

Thanks
Mario

[pgr]

I suggest you start your own thread, and give all the details in one place. This thread involves several people, different versions etc, it’s confusing.

About the migration, you can only migrate a database between the same versions of SuiteCRM (in other words, don’t attempt a migrate & upgrade in one go), but the method is the one you mentioned - SQL export/import, copy custom dir.

If you have custom modules from Module Builder, you need to cherry-pick them from modules dir.

[mariofucile]

Hi pgr,

Ok I will open a thread in case of need (i.e. sprite?)

Thanks!
Mario

[pgr]

I have no idea what that Sprite support is about. If I had your technical details (OS, PHP version) it’s possible that I would have already given you a simple apt-get command with all you need.

[PowerQuest]

Hi @mariofucile
Best is if your host offers host backups. It is way more stable and secure.

As for the installation you can always later as post task harden the secuirty. Make sure you do not make a super complex password in the start as the install sometimes troll a bit. Make a easy one and after the system has been installed go back to MariaDB/Mysql and change the DB user to a more complex password and then lastly add that to the SuiteCRM config file.

Kind regards
PowerQuest