E-Mails in SuiteCRM - your approach / experience

Hi,

I鈥檇 like to know: How do you handle emails in SuiteCRM?

Just from the UI, email sending is now looking quite up-to-date :+1: .
Receiving / reading email is still some 20 years back from the UI / UX.

Under the hood, I see MS, Google and others as mail servers.
MS is working fine overall, others still have a bug that sent mails are not stored in the sent folder (patch suggested by @tapio Fix #839 IMAP Sent append for outbound email sends by eleknader 路 Pull Request #2 路 eleknader/SuiteCRM-Core 路 GitHub :star_struck: ).
These are the two setups I see in D-A-CH / EU mostly. I hardly see any Google mails here.
How about in north America @pstevens ?

But these are just technical details. How do you use email in SuiteCRM?

  • Not at all (via my standard eMail software)
  • With the Outlook Plugin
  • Only for sending individual mails
  • Sending individual + campaigns
  • Receiving / reading / importing
  • Auto-import for one / multiple group accounts
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I鈥檝e implemented many different setups in projects.
Several even with external integration via n8n / ActivePieces since the requriements couldn鈥檛 be met using the UI just a few examples:

  • project numbers + auto assignment to these
  • multiple receivers + correct relationships
  • AI triaging + subfolder logic to import and trigger workflows

Compared to my Zoho implementations, where eMails adopt naturally into the CRM flow / daily processes, for SuiteCRM, there is still a way to go. I鈥檝e observed the updates in the last few versions and I鈥檓 happy to see those for writing emails. I hope, we鈥檒l see some more improvement around IMAP / reading emails and the workflow / features at large, as well as the underlying technical issues.

Curious:
What are your email / Suite setups? How do you use eMails? What are your experiences here?

I built my own interface and customized the system to fit my business workflows. The interface looks like this. I took inspiration from IceWarp.

Email is one of the biggest complaints I get from clients (other than colors LOL). I have some on gmail and the Yahitt plugin is completely usable (at least it was, I haven鈥檛 used it in a while). For MS clients they typically use the o365 pluigin and push emails etc from Outlook to SuiteCRM. Virtually no one uses the email client in SuiteCRM. Except for outbound, if they are sending a template or something.

I think the real answer here is not to further develop the email client in SuiteCRM, it will never be as good as Gmail or Outlook, and even if it is, users live in Gmail and Outlook, not the CRM. Some even use Gmail and Outlook as a CRM with elaborate folder and color coding systems. It鈥檚 difficult to fight against that (I鈥檝e tried!). I think the real answer is make Outlook and Gmail integration better. At least for enterprise clients I think this is the answer rather than trying to build a better mouse trap inside of SuiteCRM.

I totally agree with you. We need better integration of these email services with SuiteCRM.

It is very helpful to have a plugin that could archive emails to CRM.


This free one works well with Outlook.

SugarCRM Outlook Plugin

Does Opacus still work? Mine stopped working a while ago. Does it work with outlook online in the browser?

It still works, at least with the Outlook desktop app. I do not know if it still works with SuiteCRM 8.

I鈥檓 interested, what is it about reading email that is lacking?

I admit I haven鈥檛 been using emails with SuiteCRM, so the answer might be obvious to many people, but I would appreciate a quick explanation.

Thanks

That鈥檚 a very technical approach to a non technical issue :slight_smile:

It looks great. How about the integration? Templates, Campaigns, Attachments, importing / archiving mails, auto importing + cases, etc.?

Still, this should just be an out of the box feature or a much smoother integration into existing applications.
E-Mail, especially in B2B, is one of the standard means of communication.
That just needs to be on a different level per default. The sending / writing is close to good now with the new UI.

That鈥檚 really different for me in quite a few projects.
As mentioned, Gmail is almost never used here in business setups.
And I鈥檝e got quite a few projects with some email requirements.

  • event invitations
  • email archiving
  • small ad hoc campaigns
  • quotations / proposals
  • process updates / transactional mails
  • mails from workflows & integrations

I鈥檝e got a few projects with Mailcow, Thunderbird, Nextcloud - that鈥檚 tricky again, if only the two big mail clients (OL, GMail) get better support, the software group where SuiteCRM shines as well, will need to be left behind (open source / data sovereignty).

It鈥檚 mostly UX.
When prospects first ask about emails, I usually tell them, that it technically works.
Sending / composing is definitely on another level now, compared to two versions back.

Reading - compared to Thunderbird / GMail / Outlook / Nextcloud - is just clumsy / outdated. It technically works, but the UX is closer to Win 3.11 or something than AngularJS. :wink:
It doesn鈥檛 match day to day business processes and user expectations anymore.