Community Check

I’ve been noticing much fewer posts here of late and seems to be the same handful of people.

How is the community doing? I get people are probably asking ChatGPT for advice more often, but if you do, and solve something that other people are having an issue with, post it! Keeps the community alive.

I encourage everyone to chime in!

Post thinks you like, struggles you’re having, not just with the software, but maybe as a sales or marketing manager and how best to levergae the crm, whatever, keep the conversations going!

Who’s got something to add?

Maybe we should add something like a business / off-topic section here in the forums for things that are related to SuiteCRM but only slightly.

Maybe that’s just something one would rather ask on reddit or AI nowadays? (ask AI for an unbiased answer whether I should use more AI .. hmmm :thinking: :wink: )

Most of the people / customers I talk to recently already did a lot of work with the help of AI. Depth / experience is lacking but it’s possible to get way further with your SuiteCRM implementation than just 3 years ago.
Maybe that’s one reason for less posts here, likely similar to stackoverflow.

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Hi Paul!

I want to share my story with SuiteCRM, and I wish people could do the same, would be interesting to hear your stories!

From Teaching CRM with MS Access to Building a “Dream System” with SuiteCRM 8

Over 20 years ago, I was working as an IT teacher at a commercial college. I was asked to teach CRM systems, which meant I first had to figure out exactly what they were: why they are needed, what they are used for, and so on. Beyond the theory, I had to consider how to bring them into a classroom setting. My goal was to teach the concept of customer relationship management as a whole, rather than just how to use a specific software.

I built my very first teaching versions of a CRM using Microsoft Access.

Eventually, I discovered SugarCRM and began using it in my classes. However, my career took a turn toward “real-world sales.” At that point I really realized that sales are the thing I most love at work.

Fast forward to 2014: I was building a new company and needed a CRM. That’s when I started using SuiteCRM. I used it for managing customer data and invoicing. At the time, the system wasn’t the perfect fit for the specific needs of a construction company, so I eventually had to switch to another platform—even though I genuinely liked SuiteCRM.

Over the years, I kept a casual eye on how the SuiteCRM project was evolving.

A year ago, I started investigating the expansion and customization possibilities of the commercial CRM system used at my current workplace. I kept hitting the same wall: no matter what I asked, I was redirected to a consultant who wanted to sell me a service package. Documentation was nowhere to be found. The web version of the system was severely lacking, and while it could have been improved through paid consulting, I didn’t want a consultant—I wanted documentation so I could configure it myself.

Slowly, I began to wonder if we should switch systems entirely. I looked into the current state of SuiteCRM and ended up installing SuiteCRM 8.

Even though the UI had changed and still feels somewhat monolithic—displaying only one thing at a time—it felt familiar and logical to me. I started building a SuiteCRM instance alongside our production system to test integration.

In the early stages, I ran a continuous batch job to migrate all customer data one-way from the commercial system to SuiteCRM. I began analyzing our business processes as a whole, aiming to build a “dream CRM.” This required a deep dive into our own workflows and led me to heavily customize the system.

Today, we have an extremely functional CRM in use. There is still room for improvement, but many daily tasks are now significantly easier than before. I am also gaining insights and data from the system that I simply couldn’t access before.

When I read Paul’s post from about a year ago (Why are people leaving SuiteCRM?), I saw so many valid points.

I have already fixed some of the shortcomings mentioned in that discussion within our own instance, and I’ve submitted them as Pull Requests to the SuiteCRM Core.

I hope to see more of this from everyone who is able to contribute to SuiteCRM in their own way. Submit Issues, comment on existing Issues, and help test Pull Requests.

I’d love to hear your stories—feel free to share your journey here! :slight_smile:

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You’re absolutely right :smiley:— these days, many people turn to AI :robot: first when they’re looking for answers, and that likely explains part of the decline in activity on the forum.

Another factor could be that since SuiteCRM is still missing some core features, users may be exploring or migrating to other platforms that better meet their needs.

One idea that might help is introducing a bounty system for GitHub issues. This would allow individuals or companies to sponsor specific bug fixes or feature requests, providing an incentive for developers to prioritize and resolve them. It could be a great way to accelerate improvements while also engaging the community more actively.

Just a thought :thought_balloon: — would love to hear what others think!

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@BastianHammer I use AI alot to help with the coding drudgery. However, it’s really horrible at design and not so good at coding. That’s been my experience with it anyway. It is a time saver but if you let it, it can be a giant time waster. It makes silly mistakes like not following file naming conventions and then when you’re trying to debug it keeps giving you more “helper functions” to solve a problem that spiral out of control when after a day’s debugging you find it named a file wrong. (first hand experience!).

Or, it calls SuiteCRM functions that don’t exist, but it thinks they should!

So, so far. AI still desperately needs a human that undertands how everything works together in SuiteCRM and where to look if there is a problem. If you keep a very tight leash on and don’’t let it do too much in one go, you can make great progress and sometimes it does suprise you with how it handles a coding challenge. Anyway, that’s been my experience using AI to code.

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